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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:15 pm 
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New NAS/Switch

THECUS N1200

Features
* Easy Expansion thru USB & eSATA ports
* Easy File Storage and Sharing across multiple platforms
* Download Manager supports HTTP, FTP, BT with bandwidth control
* Built-in 4 port switch - RouStor technology
* Supports 2.5" and 3.5" hard disk drive (SATA)
* Media Server works with DLNA CERTIFIED players
* iTunes Server - Share music with iTunes compatible players
* Photo Web Server - Share picture over the network
* WebDisk

Details
Freescale 8347 processor and has 128MiB of onboard memory
Silicon Image's Sil3512 ASIC, a 2-port eSATA controller
Realtek's RTL8211B transceiver runs the Gigabit Ethernet connection and Marvell's 88E6060 ASIC is used to provide the 4-port 100MBit switch
mini-pci slot

Product Page
http://www.thecus.com/products_over.php?cid=1&pid=24

Review
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=7501&page=1

Not sure if the box is Linux based but there is other gpl downoads for other boxes

Still trying to find a price


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:20 pm 
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More info on processor

MPC8347E Features

e300 core operating from 266 MHz up to 667 MHz (enhanced version of 603e core with larger caches)

* 32-bit, high-performance superscalar core
* 1260 MIPS @ 667 MHz
* Double-precision floating point, integer, load/store, system register, and branch processor units
* 32 KB data and 32 KB instruction cache with line locking support
* DDR memory controller, up to 333 MHz data rate, with 32- or 64-bit interfaces with ECC
* One PCI interface
* Dual 10/100/1000 Ethernet controllers
* Embedded security engine
* Dual Hi-Speed USB controllers
* Local bus controller
* Dual UART (DUART)
* Dual I2C interfaces (master or slave mode)
* Four-channel DMA controller
* Serial peripheral interface (SPI)
* General-purpose parallel I/O (GPIO)
* IEEE 1149.1 JTAG test access port
* Package: 672-pin, 35 mm x 35 mm TBGA (1 mm pitch)
* Process technology: 130 nm CMOS
* Voltage: 1.2V core voltage with 3.3V and 2.5V I/O


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:21 am 
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Javascout wrote:
New NAS/Switch THECUS N1200

Details
Freescale 8347 processor and has 128MiB of onboard memory
Silicon Image's Sil3512 ASIC, a 2-port eSATA controller
Realtek's RTL8211B transceiver runs the Gigabit Ethernet connection and Marvell's 88E6060 ASIC is used to provide the 4-port 100MBit switch
mini-pci slot

Product Page
http://www.thecus.com/products_over.php?cid=1&pid=24

Review
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=7501&page=1

Not sure if the box is Linux based but there is other gpl downoads for other boxes

Still trying to find a price


According to the review at hexus.net, it should be $199 (this might be the recommended price, though). There's also a price of £150 being mentioned elsewhere in the review.

Btw.: Nice to see another well-conceived Freescale/PowerPC-based device.

Regards,

Walter.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:57 am 
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You can run debian on this, I am thinking about getting one as I run Postfix / Spam / Imap on my kuro and I think the little CPU is holding it back.

The N2100 also has a standard DDR 400 DIMM Slot!

Does anyone have a rough estimate of the BOGOMIPS (As a quick glancing comparison against the Kuro) of the Intel IOP 80219?

If the n1200 does use the e307 core at 1200 bogoMIPS thats (aprox etc I know its not a benchmark) 10 X faster than our Kuros! Shame it does not have 256Mb of ram, could make a nice SOHO server, infact the kuro is not bad!


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:53 am 
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The cpu in the n2100 gets 593 bogomips

read here
http://www.spinics.net/lists/netdev/msg09671.html


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:54 am 
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so the 2100 is aprox 3 times faster than the Kuro and the 1200 is 2x as fast again. Looks like the 1200 is going to make me a nice little server.

The Kuro copes with spamassasin and courier IMAP just fine so the extra power should help me expand it even more, still, wish it had 256Mb of RAM


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 11:30 am 
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It would be more apealling to me if that box had a fan installed in it. The only other thing I would want is dual drive capability.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:20 pm 
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With an external eSATA plug just add a eSATA enclosure for dual drive support

Also they currently have dual drive NAS with the intel IOP processor (the N2100 line)

Also be careful on the MIPS the value given was for a 666MHz cpu and they probably use the low end which could reduce mips by 1/3


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:30 pm 
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Finally seeing the N1200 being listed by some Vendors (non are in-srock and available yet)

Prices range from $190-210

I will probably order one once they become available.

I do like the Synology NAS(soldered serial header on board) they are actively supported and the software is being updated but they tend to be pricey (about $80-120 more than a kurobox HG)

http://www.synology.com
DS-106e is very similar to a kurobox except it uses SATA instead of PATA and only has 64MB of memory ($230-245 range)
The DS-106 has more memory I think but it is difficult to find exact hardware specs price wise about $40 above the DS-106e
I have an earlier model a DS-101G+ which is very similar to the DS-106e except it has a lot more flash memory (16MB).


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 5:42 pm 
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Javascout wrote:
I do like the Synology NAS(soldered serial header on board) they are actively supported and the software is being updated but they tend to be pricey (about $80-120 more than a kurobox HG)

http://www.synology.com
DS-106e is very similar to a kurobox except it uses SATA instead of PATA and only has 64MB of memory ($230-245 range)
The DS-106 has more memory I think but it is difficult to find exact hardware specs price wise about $40 above the DS-106e
I have an earlier model a DS-101G+ which is very similar to the DS-106e except it has a lot more flash memory (16MB).


If I remember right, the Synology 10x series has ARM processors.
I don't think that an ARM can compete with a PowerPC with similar frequency.

On the other hand, a serial port is a very good point for the Synology.

Walter.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:30 pm 
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The synology 101 and 101j was arm

With the 101g+ was ppc

All of the 106's are based on ppc expect the 106j I think.


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I've just purchased my N1200 and will be collecting it tomorrow (got it from Scan Ltd as I'm based in the UK). For the HDD I've gone for a 500GB Seagate. At the moment I'll just be using it as is.

First port of call is to get the music data off of my KuroHG, wipe the (200GB) drive, and have a play with upgrading the kernel (still using the original) and a new OS (currently using gentoo).

Javascout: If you do go for the N1200 and intend to 'play' with its 'internals' I'd be very interested in your findings.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:46 pm 
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None in the US has any in-stock yet.

As soon as they do I will order one.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:12 am 
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Just a quick update. It seems the N1200 is only compatible with certain HDDs, and the one I purchased with it is not one of them. I'm not happy at the moment having spent £93 on a HDD that's now useless for the purpose I wanted it for. So to me so far Thecus = poor design.

Javascout: if you want a copy of the HDD compatibility pdf so you don't fall into the same trap let me know and I'll send you a copy.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:24 am 
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I dont plan on upgrading away from the kuro until I can find something with at least 256mb or a so/dimm slot. (and something NOT quite so expensive as the n4100). 128 is just not enough, my kurohg swaps with 128 and it only has mtdappd on it and this is with other services off (atalk, lprng etc)

otherwise... id consider the n1200 but with only 128mb.. :(


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